Help! Not sure what's wrong with this string

[Keith Evans]

I'm conducting two searches, one for a Network Architect in Chicago and the other for a Lean Six Sigma Black Belt Manufacturing Development Manager.

 

I'm trying to narrow the searches down to a specific local/area.  For the Network Architect, I'd like to narrow it down by zip code.  I've seen something and tried to use it and I got nothing!?  Not sure why. Here is the string for the Network Architect:

(intitle:resume OR inurl:resume) "network architect" AND "Cisco Certified" -jobs -submit -sample -site:www.microtrain.net 60002..60699

 

For the MDM, I've had some success just leaving the string to pull ANYONE, but I'm getting a great deal of people out of the US as well as individuals who based on location, would not be a relocatable candidate (LA to NY for example).

 

Here is the string for the MDM, I'd like to focus on NC, SC, PA, NY, CT, RI, NJ, GA

(intitle:resume OR inurl:resume) "Lean Manufacturing" AND "Six Sigma Black Belt" ("electrical" OR "industrial" OR "mechanical") engineering -jobs -submit -sample

 

Thanks in advance for your help.

[gary cozin]

Keith-

Many people don't use zip codes on their resumes, so you should capture them with area codes or city/state- if you add chicago (il OR illinois) to your string - you will get results. Also try area codes without the city but do include (il OR illinois);

 

Your string for MDM - do the same by including area codes & states in the string;

 

You should also try xraying LinkedIN for profiles as in this example:

 

site:linkedin.com "network architect" "Cisco Certified" "location * greater chicago area" -inurl:dir

Try putting in the actual certification such as (ccna OR ccie) and others to get add'l results-

 

Good luck-

 

Gary

[Keith Evans]

Gary,

 

Thanks for the tip, I couldn't figure out why nothing was coming up.  One additional question if you don't mind...How would the string look with Area Codes...Just list them out or add OR in between them?

 

Also, ran the search with the changes you suggested and it pulled people who either worked in IL or went to school in IL.  Area code will probably be a better choice to go with I'm thinking.

gary cozin said:

Keith-

Many people don't use zip codes on their resumes, so you should capture them with area codes or city/state- if you add chicago (il OR illinois) to your string - you will get results. Also try area codes without the city but do include (il OR illinois);

 

Your string for MDM - do the same by including area codes & states in the string;

 

You should also try xraying LinkedIN for profiles as in this example:

 

site:linkedin.com "network architect" "Cisco Certified" "location * greater chicago area" -inurl:dir

Try putting in the actual certification such as (ccna OR ccie) and others to get add'l results-

 

Good luck-

 

Gary

[gary cozin]

Add OR between them! (708 OR xxx OR xxx OR xxx) for example

Keith Evans said:

Gary,

 

Thanks for the tip, I couldn't figure out why nothing was coming up.  One additional question if you don't mind...How would the string look with Area Codes...Just list them out or add OR in between them?

gary cozin said:

Keith-

Many people don't use zip codes on their resumes, so you should capture them with area codes or city/state- if you add chicago (il OR illinois) to your string - you will get results. Also try area codes without the city but do include (il OR illinois);

 

Your string for MDM - do the same by including area codes & states in the string;

 

You should also try xraying LinkedIN for profiles as in this example:

 

site:linkedin.com "network architect" "Cisco Certified" "location * greater chicago area" -inurl:dir

Try putting in the actual certification such as (ccna OR ccie) and others to get add'l results-

 

Good luck-

 

Gary

[Keith Evans]

Thanks for the tip, I couldn't figure out why nothing was coming up.  One additional question if you don't mind...How would the string look with Area Codes...Just list them out or add OR in between them?

 

Also, ran the search with the changes you suggested and it pulled people who either worked in IL or went to school in IL.  Area code will probably be a better choice to go with I'm thinking.

 

I've tried linkedin and had some success there, but want to broaden my search if possible.

[Keith Evans]

OK, need some explaination as to why the following string isn't working?  It worked for a different search (network architect in chicago) using the area codes as a search criteria.  For some reason, it's not working for this search and in this example using the state of new york and one of the MANY ny area codes.

 

Google says no matches!?

 

(intitle:resume OR inurl:resume) "Lean Manufacturing" AND "Six Sigma Black Belt" (electrical OR industrial OR mechanical) engineering (ny OR new york) 917 -jobs -submit -sample

[Dave Galley]

Keith,

The string works. In fact, there's nothing logically or syntactically wrong with your string (except I'd put "New York" in quotes).

The problem is that there really are no documents matching your search criteria in Google's vast web of indexed pages. I played with your string a bit, and when I pulled out "lean manufacturing" I did get ONE person's resume, but if I dropped "Six sigma black belt" I got about five people who met the other criteria. Not sure how important it is for you that they have a 917 area code, but dropping that from the string gets you ~165 results.

I would try the same string on other engines, just to see if they've indexed a page Google missed, but realistically - you are searching for an extremely specific candidate profile in a limited pool. The vast majority of people do not post their resumes online directly as personal web pages, and instead post them on some form of networking site or job board.

-Dave
Keith Evans said:

OK, need some explaination as to why the following string isn't working?  It worked for a different search (network architect in chicago) using the area codes as a search criteria.  For some reason, it's not working for this search and in this example using the state of new york and one of the MANY ny area codes.

 

Google says no matches!?

 

(intitle:resume OR inurl:resume) "Lean Manufacturing" AND "Six Sigma Black Belt" (electrical OR industrial OR mechanical) engineering (ny OR new york) 917 -jobs -submit -sample

[Keith Evans]

Dave,

 

Thanks I thought that might be the case (yes it is VERY specific), and I do need both the lean manufacturing and six sigma black belt.  I just figured in a place like New York there'd have to be at LEAST ONE person!?  I'll try putting new york in qotes as well.

 

This client is looking for the proverbial needle in a haystack, lean manufacturing, six sigma and minority. But at least you've clarified for me that the string is in fact a good one.

[Keith Evans]

Dave, one question...would it be possible to search via zip codes?  I'm just wonderig if I changed the part of the string from area code to zip code would that work?

 

Basically it would look like this:

 

(intitle:resume OR inurl:resume) "Lean Manufacturing" AND "Six Sigma Black Belt" (electrical OR industrial OR mechanical) engineering (il OR "illinois") 60002...60699 -jobs -submit -sample

Dave Galley said:

Keith,

The string works. In fact, there's nothing logically or syntactically wrong with your string (except I'd put "New York" in quotes).

The problem is that there really are no documents matching your search criteria in Google's vast web of indexed pages. I played with your string a bit, and when I pulled out "lean manufacturing" I did get ONE person's resume, but if I dropped "Six sigma black belt" I got about five people who met the other criteria. Not sure how important it is for you that they have a 917 area code, but dropping that from the string gets you ~165 results.

I would try the same string on other engines, just to see if they've indexed a page Google missed, but realistically - you are searching for an extremely specific candidate profile in a limited pool. The vast majority of people do not post their resumes online directly as personal web pages, and instead post them on some form of networking site or job board.

-Dave
Keith Evans said:

OK, need some explaination as to why the following string isn't working?  It worked for a different search (network architect in chicago) using the area codes as a search criteria.  For some reason, it's not working for this search and in this example using the state of new york and one of the MANY ny area codes.

 

Google says no matches!?

 

(intitle:resume OR inurl:resume) "Lean Manufacturing" AND "Six Sigma Black Belt" (electrical OR industrial OR mechanical) engineering (ny OR new york) 917 -jobs -submit -sample

[Dave Galley]

Keith,

You can run the search - but you may not get many/any results. Again, the problem is that few people list ZIP codes on publicly published resumes. Fewer still have them displayed on public profiles on LI and similar sites. However, if you ARE searching ZIP codes, you can probably leave off the state.

You would be better off searching for town names, most likely, but this can be more difficult (might have to run more searches, rather than one that incorporates them all).

If you take the ZIP codes out of the string you propose, you will see ~147 results, all in the state of IL, but I have no idea of where they are in relation to Chicago. The ZIP code range you give is pretty broad - I mean, 60002 is on the WI border - so I'm not sure how close they need to be to your target.

I would also suggest varying your terms - can "lean manufacturing" be stated a different way? Are there other terms which would imply this, without explicitly stating it? Also, look at variations on "six sigma black belt" - are there other ways to say it?
You could also do ~engineer instead of engineering, not sure how well that will serve you, though. Or you could just change it to a parenthetical OR - (engineer OR engineering) - the engineering term is going to hit more on degrees than experience. Unless that's all you want, of course.

-Dave
Keith Evans said:

Dave, one question...would it be possible to search via zip codes?  I'm just wonderig if I changed the part of the string from area code to zip code would that work?

 

Basically it would look like this:

 

(intitle:resume OR inurl:resume) "Lean Manufacturing" AND "Six Sigma Black Belt" (electrical OR industrial OR mechanical) engineering (il OR "illinois") 60002...60699 -jobs -submit -sample